In the case of Zosimo T. Literatus (known as Zim when he was a member of the SPCDC BBS), we have a classic example of “sour grapes” and revenge because his membership in the BBS was terminated due to his abuse of the members.

Zim had posted a story told by Fr. Syquia in his book “Exorcism: Encounters with the Paranormal and the Occult.” Members of the BBS thought the story to be rather odd. Rather than try to discuss any misconceptions our members may have had about the story, he immediately became insulting and abusive. Readers may see this conversation for themselves and then compare the transcripts with what Zim relates in his article below: Click here to read transcript.

Below is the article written by Zim in the Sun-Star (Cebu), Philippine, on April 8, 2009. Our Response follows afterward:

Literatus: Threats to a healthy faith

Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Zosimo T. Literatus, R.M.T.

A HEALTHY Christian life is defined by how much spiritual assault we survived while staying as close to the Lord as possible and helping in His works in redeeming this world.

Last month, I searched a group of saints through the Web for a book when I chanced upon a website bearing the name St. Pio Center for Deliverance Counseling, allegedly owned by a so-called Order of the Legion of St. Michael. It is co-founded by one Bro. John-Paul Ignatius Mary, OLSM, supposedly a Baptist preacher who converted to Catholicism.

I registered in their forum, shared a few ideas, and asked a few questions. But later on, something struck me as being wrong. I shared a story I read from the book of Fr. Jose Francisco Syquia, Exorcism: Encounters with the Paranormal and the Occult.

The story was about a nun who performed deliverance on a large mango tree inhabited by a huge, furry demon near the house of Fr. Jocis’ brother, and was attacked by the demon. The reaction of the other long-standing members of the forum (which I suspected later to be just one person using different names) sounded like a sneer on the crucifix being used, a belittling of the nun, with an implication that their method of deliverance was much better than the nun’s.

Their Brother also sounded more like an authoritative “exorcist” than Fr. Jocis, Manila’s official exorcist. My “spider sense” buzzed.

I felt I was not talking to a Catholic, but a malevolent persons instead. So I started asking questions about the brother’s ordination bishop, specific day the brother was authorized by the bishop or the Holy See to start a religious order, etc. But no answer came, and surprisingly the questions I posted got splurged and disappeared from the forum records (by the brother administrator’s wizardry).

I e-mailed a query to the Rev. Martin Amos, Bishop of Davenport (Iowa) where the order has an official address and the brother supposedly resided. Bishop Amos replied: “The Order of the Legion of St. Michael is unknown and has no connection with the Diocese of Davenport.” (Check faithcop.wordpress.com for more info on this group.)

A disturbed spirit often results into a disturbed physical and mental health, and a soul endangered.

This Lenten season is an opportune time to restore order in our spiritual lives, clean up our mess, and start anew. The Internet today is getting to be a very dangerous place to visit. Children beware!

Deceivers of any kind abound, from “wolves on sheep’s skin” to blasphemous satanic coven’s websites. A Christian’s only defense is grace given at the right time, the right place, to rescue the soul from harm.

FEEDBACK TO ARTICLE
Submitted by Cavan (not verified) on Sun, 06/14/2009 – 01:24.

My reading of various Brother Ignatius Mary’s articles and comments, combined with my correspondence with him, causes me to suspect, quite strongly, that he’s a fraud. His grasp of Catholic theology is tenuous, at best.

He seems to have embraced some items that appeal to his seemingly Protestant (Baptist) background and ignored other items that conflict with that fundamentalist mindset.

The possibility that Brother Ignatius Mary could be an alternate identity for the convicted and registered sex offender Richard Lee Collete Jr. adds a new dimension to the entire matter.

Brother Ignatius Mary seems to be posing as a religious figure, seems to represent that he holds a religious degree that he does not hold, seems to believe in ghosts (an utterly un-Catholic belief), and seems to use religious arguments (or try to use them) to further an anti-Obama political agenda.

In a way, he seems to be somewhat articulate, but, upon closer examination, that perception seems to be caused by his freely quoting and paraphrasing (without attribution) various Catholic texts.

He sometimes gets carried away by not proofing what he’s written, e.g., “Objective and fundamental truths are either true or they are not; they cannot be both true and untrue at the same time” (from “Three Secret Strategies of Satan,” under “All Opinions are Equal”). Such a nonsensical statement is hardly worthy of someone who was supposedly awarded a Licentiate in Theology (from God knows where!) and is supposedly studying for a Licentiate in Sacred Theology.

If anyone is foolish enough to donate money to Brother Ignatius Mary or his so-called Order of the Legion of St. Michael, they need both legal and psychological help. As for Brother Ignatius Mary, I suspect that he not only defrauds people, but he evades taxes on his fraudulent profits.

Shame on him if he’s defrauding people and double shame on him if he doesn’t render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s!

Submitted by Maximus (not verified) on Sat, 05/30/2009 – 03:04.

I read what transacted on the site mentioned, and I am surprised what you said here does not follow what you posted on that site. You also never answered Bro. the question on what authority you have or training you received in these serious matters. The kettle calls the pot black.

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Now, according to St. Francis deSales, when someone slanders or libels us, we are to give a calm reply to testify to the truth. If the slanderer accepts the truth, praise God. If the slanderer continues his lies, then accept it as mortification, which is good for the soul.

The following points out the truths and the errors of Mr. Literatus’ statements and replaces the errors with the facts.

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RESPONSE

ZOSIMO: …allegedly owned by a so-called Order of the Legion of St. Michael. It is co-founded by one Bro. John-Paul Ignatius Mary, OLSM, supposedly a Baptist preacher who converted to Catholicism.

OBSERVATION: Again, the standard and well-known rhetoric of detractors and uncharitable people is to pepper in their narratives with pejorative adjectives such as “allegedly” and “supposedly” about things that not under dispute. We have seen this tactic used in many situations. It seems to be a favorite tactic to solicit doubt in the readers, and anger in the victim.  But, it is merely what is called a Liberal Tactic of Obfuscation to divert attention away from the real issues, in this case, by casting unwarranted and silly aspersions.

ZOSIMO: The story was about a nun who performed deliverance on a large mango tree inhabited by a huge, furry demon near the house of Fr. Jocis’ brother, and was attacked by the demon. The reaction of the other long-standing members of the forum (which I suspected later to be just one person using different names) sounded like a sneer on the crucifix being used, a belittling of the nun, with an implication that their method of deliverance was much better than the nun’s.

FACT: It is another standard tactic to allege that posters are merely one person posting under many names. We wonder if the detractors cannot stand the thought that the object of their hatred might have many supportive people on their side? This tactic has also been seen many times in many situations. The fact is that our BBS has safeguards installed that help to prevent people from joining under several names. While no system is perfect, it usually does not take long for an impostor to be exposed by his own behavior should someone defeat the checks. In this case, the members who posted their opinions that inspired Mr. Literatus’ attacks are both known to us personally — one was the administrator of the BBS. We can assure you that they are two separate people and the others after Mr. Literatus’ insults were also individuals. But, again, this is a standard act of hateful people. They accuse (the devil’s specialty) just out of the blue without anything to base it upon.

The comments of the members did not belittle anyone, but did question the methods of the nun. In Deliverance work there are several different methodologies. Some are better than others, there are honest disagreements between brethren about which method to use. In this case, the approach was more typical of the Charismatic Renewal methodologies, which we, and many priest-exorcists, do find problematic at times. Nevertheless, the correct response for Mr. Literatus would be to explain his view and the methodology employed and have a discussion to resolve any misunderstandings. But, Mr. Liberatus did not do that, but went immediately into abuse, which was the sole reason for his ouster. See the transcripts linked above to see how the discussion progressed.

ZOSIMO: Their Brother also sounded more like an authoritative “exorcist” than Fr. Jocis, Manila’s official exorcist. My “spider sense” buzzed.

FACT: Brother Ignatius does have more than twenty-years of experience in deliverance, including counseling with demonized people, conducting workshops and seminars, consulting with law enforcement, and training others in deliverance counseling. His views, however, and the views and approach of the SPCDC are modeled after the advice and information from Fr. Amorth, exorcist of Rome, and other exorcists such as Fr. Tom Euteneuer of HLI, Fr. Jose Fortea, Fr. Michael Scanlan, Chancellor and former President at Franciscan University in Steubenville .  In our training materials we use the writings from those mentioned above and from people like Father Benedict Groeschel and others listed in our Faculty Resources. Other authorities we look to include Cardinal Suenens, theologian Dr. Peter Kreeft, St. Thomas Aquinas and other saints, Fr. Jordan Aumann, and yes, even Fr. Jose Syquia who Mr. Literatus quoted (we have his book, Exorcism: Encounters with the Paranormal and the Occult). We also look to and are obedient to the various Church documents on the subject, including the restrictions on deliverance apostolates promulgated in 1985, and the Instructions on Healing Prayer in 2000 both by Cardinal Ratzinger as prefect of the Doctrine on the Faith, now Pope Benedict XVI. We stand on the rock of the Church, which is the only place we can be standing.

ZOSIMO: I felt I was not talking to a Catholic, but a malevolent persons instead. So I started asking questions about the brother’s ordination bishop, specific day the brother was authorized by the bishop or the Holy See to start a religious order, etc. But no answer came, and surprisingly the questions I posted got splurged and disappeared from the forum records (by the brother administrator’s wizardry).

FACT: Here we see another irresponsible “accusation” . Mr. Literatus accuses us of more than not being Catholic, he accuses us of being malevolent. What this is based upon is anybody’s guess. Perhaps it is because the members did not accept his view on face value? As to Mr. Liberatus’ “questions”, those questions were accusations and attacks in the context in which they were asked. We never respond to questions that are veiled or not so veiled attacks. The questions he refers to are: “To whom did he professed his private vow? To a bishop? Is he authorized by the Church to start an Order?” The questions themselves are innocent in a different context and have been answered happily many times. But, this was in the context of Mr. Literatus attacking us and trying to bring aspersion upon Brother rather than having the integrity to discuss the issues. This technique is also a Liberal Tactics of Obfuscation. The peppering comments such as “the members are all one person, or the allegedly and supposedly language are also obfuscation attempts. These are all designed to obfuscate (divert attention) away from the real issues.

On this particular questions, however, the answers have been published on our Website since 1997. (See Status in the Church and Discussion of Theological and Canonical Considerations).

As to ordination, Brother Ignatius is not a priest or deacon and thus he is not ordained and never claimed to be ordained. As to the permission to start a religious association, canon law gives us, and anyone, the right to form associations, including for religious perfection. (see the documents linked in the previous paragraphs).

ZOSIMO: I e-mailed a query to the Rev. Martin Amos, Bishop of Davenport (Iowa) where the order has an official address and the brother supposedly resided. Bishop Amos replied: “The Order of the Legion of St. Michael is unknown and has no connection with the Diocese of Davenport.” (Check faithcop.wordpress.com for more info on this group.)

TRUE: We have never claimed any association with any diocese. This fact is not only in the Status of the Church documents but is written on our home page for all to read.

As for Faith Cop, we have already responded to the libels and lies of whomever that person is. We do notice a large similarity in style of writing between Mr. Literatus and Faith Cop. Perhaps they are the same person, or perhaps Faith Cop is where Mr. Literatus gleaned his remarks.

Then we have a comment to the article:
Cavan (not verified) on Sun, 06/14/2009 – 01:24.

CAVAN: My reading of various Brother Ignatius Mary’s articles and comments, combined with my correspondence with him, causes me to suspect, quite strongly, that he’s a fraud. His grasp of Catholic theology is tenuous, at best.

QUESTION: Where’s the beef (evidence)? In what way was Brother’s grasp of Catholic theology flawed? Please point it out specifically. These hateful people never, that is never, provide any proof of their accusations. We challenge anyone to find the flaws in theology by Bro. Ignatius. If there are any, Bro. Ignatius will be happy to correct them.

CAVAN: He seems to have embraced some items that appeal to his seemingly Protestant (Baptist) background and ignored other items that conflict with that fundamentalist mindset.

OBSERVATION: We, and many people, have noticed that whenever a person disagrees with or doesn’t like a convert to the faith the obfuscation technique of “his Protestant background” is used. What this usually means is that the convert is a more loyal Catholic than the accuser. In almost every case that we have witnessed of this technique the accuser is a “liberal” Catholic and thus associates loyalty and orthodoxy with fundamentalism.

CAVAN: Brother Ignatius Mary seems to be posing as a religious figure, seems to represent that he holds a religious degree that he does not hold, seems to believe in ghosts (an utterly un-Catholic belief), and seems to use religious arguments (or try to use them) to further an anti-Obama political agenda.

FACT: Here Mr. Cavin is revealing his ignorance of Catholic belief as the Bible itself mentions ghosts, orthodox theologians like Peter Kreeft write about ghosts, as do the saints. Of course we have to define the word ghost. Brother has done that borrowing on the work of Peter Kreeft, St. Thomas Aquinas, and the Bible in his essay, Seven Kinds of Ghosts.

And the coup de grâce of Cavin’s mindset in his comment about Brother’s position on Obama (which is also the position of hundreds of bishops, by the way). The Obama issue involves objective facts that his political agenda is immoral and even evil (e.g., on abortion). Only a liberal would make such a statement. Thus, Mr. Cavin’s comments are of little consequence.

CAVAN: He sometimes gets carried away by not proofing what he’s written, e.g., “Objective and fundamental truths are either true or they are not; they cannot be both true and untrue at the same time” (from “Three Secret Strategies of Satan,” under “All Opinions are Equal”).

OBSERVATION: Again a coup de grâce. Those who are loyal and orthodox Catholics, and all others who have integrity, will agree with the statement quoted. The sentence was proofed and it stands perfect as written. We live in a world where people think opinions are all that matters and there is no objective truth. But, truth is not dependent upon our opinions, including Mr. Cavins.

The other comment attached to the article points out the disingenuous nature of Mr. Literatus:

MAXIMUS: I read what transacted on the site mentioned, and I am surprised what you said here does not follow what you posted on that site. You also never answered Bro. the question on what authority you have or training you received in these serious matters. The kettle calls the pot black.

Faith Cop is a new website that touts itself as “Protecting Catholics from the Wolves in the Net”. It has only four entries as of this date, of which SPCDC is the first entry (March 17, 2009). Only the SPCDC posting has comments, ten of them. It appears that the site was mostly created to attack SPCDC and Bro. Ignatius. As the webmaster is anonymous (a common method for detractors), we do not know who is behind the site, but since this website appeared on the heals of the Fr. Ashcraft incident we suspect is it one of Fr. Ashcraft’s cronies (see Bill Vaile and Ken Deel posts concerning the Ashcraft incident), or perhaps it is from Mr. Zosimo T. Literatus who attacked us about the same time. Whoever it is, the one common denominator behind the attacks on Faith Cop and the others is revenge and a decidedly worldly mind not consistent with Christ.

The post about SPCDC on Faith Cop follows. Our Response is afterwards:

SPCDC

SPCDC purports to be a deliverance ministry named St. Pio Center for Deliverance Counseling, which is owned by the so-called Order of the Legion of St. Michael (OLSM), co-founded by one Bro. John-Paul Ignatius Mary, a Baptist preacher who supposedly converted into Catholicism and is now a “hermit” of the Order and an unknown (most likely concealed co-founder).

THE “ORDER”

Official address of the OLSM is stated at 1111 S. Sheridan Avenue, Ottumwa, IA 52501-5350. It declared six employees according to small business info site Manta.

A footnote in an Article of Association posted in its website indicates its founding on 12 December 1993, incorporated in the State of Iowa on 23 September 1994, dissoved 27 July 2001 after it was incorporated in the State of South Dakota on 09 July 2001, dissolved in an 17 April 2006 after it was reestablished as an unincorporated association on 25 March 2006. In this article, the existence of two founders (directors) was also mentioned.

Our investigations however revealed that this hidden co-founder could be no other than Joe Meineke, a lay person (supposedly Catholic also; married with four children) who according to a deleted entry in Wikipedia is a ghost hunting minister of note. Bro. Mary acts as director of the SPCDC with Meineke as associate director, who is also director of the so-called Online Spiritual Warfare Center.

BRO. IGNATIUS MARY

In his information submitted to 4Marks, Ignatius Mary called himself as Bro. Ignatius Mary of the Lady of Mt. Carmel (not of the Order), a religious brother in the diocese of Davenfort in Iowa. His earliest recorded activity (contributed article) was on 9 February 2009. The article, The Three Secret Strategies of Satan, bore his OLSM title.

In the “Order’s” official website, he writes in two blogs: Brother Bubba’s Journal and For a Superior View. The latter blog alludes for his superior status in the group.

The review panel who handled the deletion of information about Bro. Mary from Wikipedia noted that he is a “self-appointed exorcist” with references supporting credentials “seem to be entirely self-published demonology sites and Internet radio shows.”

MR. JOE MEINEKE

Wikipedia indentified Joe Meineke as into “ghost hunting ministries of note.”

PUBLIC PERSONA

The teachings of the Order can be glaringly impressive in its “faithfulness” to the Church as it will not minch words in saying that the teachings of the Church as of course explained by them must be followed without question. For them, other opinions not the same as their “Truth opinion” does not merit respect as they are not of the same level.

Its official website, St. Michael’s Call (www.saint-mike.org), contains articles that on their face value can pass for a good Catholic resource. It even displays a Semper Fidelis seal to vouch for their fidelity to the Pope. It declares more “healing ministries” such as St. Dymphna Healing Center, Sexual Addiction Recovery Group, At the Water’s Edge Healing Ministry, and Ten Thousand Angels.

But like any works of deception, written words cannot replace the behavior of the people behind these websites and the articles inside. Convincing appearances can make for the best tools for deception that the less instructed Catholics can surely fall into its predatory intent.

TROUBLING SIGNS

But those were as far as what can be spoken in words. By the time you start asking questions about them, the truth would lose its value or importance as they will not hesitate to do what it takes to not reveal the truth.

These are questions for truth that they never fail to withhold: (1) Who give Bro. Mary and his co-founder the authority to create an Order (religious order)? (2) Before which bishop did Bro. Mary took his solemn vows as a brother? Bro. Mary faunts his clerical habits and a crucifix necklace in his photos, giving us a presumption that he has an official mandate from the Catholic Church to create the Order. (3) Did the Holy See officially approved their creation of the Order? (4) Who is the Order’s co-founder? (5) What is the nature of this Order? Religious orders requires its members to make the solemn vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience (if Meineke is a co-founder, the Order is illegally created because he could not make the solemn vows being married). If it is a religious congregation, it should refrain from using the name “Order” as they are not authorized to do so being a simple congregation.

Another problem is: the administration of the “Order’s” property can be done only by the bishop and NOT by themselves. While religious orders are allowed to manage their own properties and assets independently from the bishop, simple congregations ARE NOT. The bishop oversees it. Meineke also is living with his family and not inside the “Order’s” premises as a requisite for being a member.

The way it looks, this Order operates as it has a legitimate ministry despite the fact that the Order for all indications available has no canonical status to exercise legitimate ministries inside the Catholic Church. “As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church…any ministry in the Church (Pope Benedict XVI: Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church, 10 March 2009).”

For all indications, it is a money-making deliverance counseling service outfit that sells books written by one of the founder, solicits donations, train “deliverance ministers” perhaps for a fee, and maybe ask for payment on their so-called deliverance services. Interacting with them on this issue, you can get a sense that it will discourage a person from seeking the free help of the legitimate local Catholic Church deliverance ministers and official exorcists so they can perform these themselves.

At worse, the founders’ behavior is like creating a federally valid money-making and money-soliciting group, without valid authority from the Roman Catholic Church, assuming the identity of a Catholic, provide maybe for-fee Catholic-like ministry of deliverance, hoping that no true Catholic would ever discover such fraud, and fight like hell should discovery becomes imminent.

Catholics who accidentally came into the SPCDC may face an uphill battle in defending what they believe because this group even for the sake of intellectual argument would “label” Catholics, who stood their grounds, as “attackers.” Any Catholic must defend what he believes without censuring others who do the same: “Always be prepared to make a defence to anyone who calls you to account for the hope that is in you.” But this group will censure you to protect their interests on the expense of the Truth.

There are also indications that its purported well-distributed forum members, supposedly coming from such countries as Canada even Belgium in addition to the USA, could well be the same people under different names.

In his article, Three Secret Strategies of Satan, Bro. Ignatius Mary wrote: “Opinion has its value only at serves to reveal the Truth.” And yet there were reports that Catholic members of the SPCDC forum who asked question that could reveal the truth about the organization has been reportedly spurged from membership and their views removed from the forum to avoid them having to answer these questions that might reveal problems.

FROM CHURCH AUTHORITIES

We wrote to the Diocese of Davenport and His Excellence, Most Rev. Martin Amos, Bishop of Davenport, confirmed on March 19, 2009 that “the Order of the Legion of St. Michael is unknown” to him and “it has no connection with the Diocese of Davenport. I have consulted with the two pastors of the parishes in Ottumwa and the organization is not known to them.” Apparently, a certain Roy Reeder has been associated with the Order, but is not listed as a member of either Ottumwa parishes.

Canon 209.1 provides that lay initiatives in organizing for spreading Catholic teachings “must maintain communion with the Church.” Not being known in the Diocese of Iowa clearly indicates that this group is not in communion with the Catholic Church.

LETHALITY

The worst sign is their deliberate intention to hide these information and censure those who ask these questions. It is an act of deception and a lie. It reveals that the “Truth opinion” they are talking about only applies when they are speaking and concerns others but not them. Such impressive methods of deception, who could have taught them.

What added to the deception it created was the use of the names of holy people of extraordinary missions–Saint Pio of Peitrelcina and St. Michael the Archangel. A look and a mention of these saints’ names can help silence the warning signs any sensitive Catholics might notice from this group. But this group may have underestimated the graces these Saints can convey to Catholics under their attack to uncover their falsehoods.

And should their deception be fully revealed, may St Pio and St Michael the Archangel, forgive them.

PHOTO

The photo shown above is a screen shot from the profile of Bro. Mary in the SPCDC forum. A look at the ashen-white cloaked face, the raised dagger ready to strike, and the hissing sound of the crosss of this Lord Knight is quite disturbing to the soul. And there’s only one fallen angel any Catholic can readily identify this Lord Knight of the Crosss with.

Related photos

“Bro Ignatius Mary OLSM” in 4Marks profile

Richard Lee Collete Jr in MySpace profile

Mr. Collete claimed in his MySpace blog that he already died by murder. Curious, indeed!

One of our readers, eradicabomalum helped us background check “Bro. Ignatius Mary,” provided us a link to the Iowa Sex Offender Registry with the photos of the “Brother” who is actually one Richard Lee Collett Jr. We appreciate very much the information.

If you have more information about this “Order” and their “ministries,” please don’t hesitate to post a comment in this article. Your help would be able to protect other Catholics from unexpected influence and unnecessary attacks and deceptions from this group.

10 Responses to “SPCDC”

paranormalethics (a/k/a Darlene Watts) Says:
March 27, 2009 at 5:30 am

Richard Lee Collett Jr a. k. a. Brother Ignatius Mary or Brother John Paul Ignatius Mary is listed on as a sex offender for Iowa on the state’s sex offender list. His “hermitage” home is just a tiny home he lives in. He is listed as the founder of the Order of the League of Saint Michael, both through websites (with his address and phone number) as well as saying so on his site on some parts. He is not associated with any diocese and does at times claim he is. Brother Bubba is listed as him on one site. I feel relatively confident that Brother Francis Mary is also. He is deceptive to say the least. He’s had the websites since 1998. The commision of the sex offense was in 2005. It is two counts of child pornography.

I’m glad I am not the only one that saw something up with him. You’ll notice on his site, he has a sexual addiction group. Strange how he hinted at what he was there. I’m sure there is more to uncover.

faithcop Says:
March 28, 2009 at 3:27 am

Thanks for your information on this Richard Lee Collett Jr. Your active involvement would help other unwary souls avoid deception as dangerous as this. Best regards.

________________________

Now, according to St. Francis deSales, when someone slanders or libels us, we are to give a calm reply to testify to the truth. If the slanderer accepts the truth, praise God. If the slanderer continues his lies, then accept it as mortification, which is good for the soul.

The following points out the truths and the errors of “Faith Cop” statements and replaces the errors with the facts.

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RESPONSE

FAITH COP: Our investigations however revealed that this hidden co-founder could be no other than Joe Meineke.

FALSE:  The OLSM was founded in December 1993 by Bro. Ignatius and seven other people. Joe Meineke was not one of the founders. Bro. Ignatius did not meet Joe until 2001.

FAITH COP: In his information submitted to 4Marks, Ignatius Mary called himself as Bro. Ignatius Mary of the Lady of Mt. Carmel (not of the Order), a religious brother in the diocese of Davenfort in Iowa. His earliest recorded activity (contributed article) was on 9 February 2009. The article, The Three Secret Strategies of Satan, bore his OLSM title.

FACT: This statement seems to imply some sort of discrepancy in the name for Bro. Ignatius. Brother’s religious name is “John-Paul Ignatius Mary of our Lady of Mt. Carmel”. In daily practice that religious name is shortened to ” Ignatius Mary”. The OLSM initials designates the order to which Brother belongs. The OLSM goes after the profession name regardless of which form is used (the full name or the shortened name). Changing one’s name to a religious name when offering consecration is an ancient custom in the Catholic Church. Pope Benedict is not is real name!

Bro. Ignatius does not refer to himself as a “religious brother” but as a “consecrated brother”. There is a difference to which the detractor seems to be ignorant about.

FAITH COP: In the “Order’s” official website, he writes in two blogs: Brother Bubba’s Journal and For a Superior View. The latter blog alludes for his superior status in the group.

TRUE & FALSE: Bro. Ignatius does write the Brother Bubba’s Journal but at the time of Mr. Faith Cop wrote his diatribe the blog, For a Superior View, was written by Francis Patrick, our Provost. A picture of Francis was on the blog who is unmistakeably not Bro. Ignatius. Recently Francis Patrick’s blog was renamed to “The Provost Advisor”. Bro. Ignatius then became the designated author of “For a Superior View” which refers to Brother as the Founding Superior of the OLSM. The position of Superior is a standard title for the guy in charge and does not indicate a “superior” status, but just the opposite, the position is a “servants” status. Having a rudimentary understanding of monastic traditions and customs would have avoid this misunderstanding.

FAITH COP: (supposedly Catholic)  (so-called) (supposedly converted)

FACT: It is common among detractors and the worldly minded to pepper their rhetoric with provisional language about things that are clearly known. The technique is called a “Liberal Tactic of Obfuscation”. Bro. Ignatius is not “supposedly’ Catholic or “supposedly” converted. These are incontrovertible and documented facts. The records are located at the parish of his entry into full communion with the Church.

FAITH COP: The teachings of the Order can be glaringly impressive in its “faithfulness” to the Church as it will not minch words in saying that the teachings of the Church as of course explained by them must be followed without question. For them, other opinions not the same as their “Truth opinion” does not merit respect as they are not of the same level.

Uh? We have no idea what Mr.Faith Cop is trying to say. We have never heard the term “Truth opinion”. The Truth of dogma and definitive doctrine is not a matter of opinion. We do insist that the official teachings of the Church shall resolve all disputes. Heterodox opinions are not tolerated on our BBSs and website. If that is the problem, then we are guilty as charged. When it comes to dogma and definitive teachings, or any other teachings of the Church, we offer no opinions, but are mere messengers of whatever the Church says about the subject. Many people find such loyalty intimidating as they often wish to have “wiggle room” around some Church teaching.

FAITH COP: It declares more “healing ministries” such as St. Dymphna Healing Center, Sexual Addiction Recovery Group, At the Water’s Edge Healing Ministry, and Ten Thousand Angels.

FACT: We have only one healing ministry, the St. Dymphna Healing Center. The Catholic Support Group for Sexual Addiction Recovery is merely a project of that ministry. At the Water’s Edge Healing Ministry is not our ministry, but that of Deacon living in Ohio. We support the work that he does and thus link his website on our website. Ten Thousand Angels is not a ministry. If one clicks on the link one will discover it is a song — a very beautiful song perfect for those undergoing spiritual warfare in their lives.

FAITH COP: These are questions for truth that they never fail to withhold: (1) Who give Bro. Mary and his co-founder the authority to create an Order (religious order)? (2) Before which bishop did Bro. Mary took his solemn vows as a brother? Bro. Mary faunts his clerical habits and a crucifix necklace in his photos, giving us a presumption that he has an official mandate from the Catholic Church to create the Order. (3) Did the Holy See officially approved their creation of the Order? (4) Who is the Order’s co-founder? (5) What is the nature of this Order? Religious orders requires its members to make the solemn vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience (if Meineke is a co-founder, the Order is illegally created because he could not make the solemn vows being married). If it is a religious congregation, it should refrain from using the name “Order” as they are not authorized to do so being a simple congregation.

FACT: 1) Canon law gives us the right to create our association (of the Christian Faithful). Our authority is Canon Law 208-223 and confirmed by canon lawyers and others.  (see our Disclaimer, which lists the pertinent canon laws).

2)  None of our members offer solemn vows. We offer private vows. Private vows may be presented before a priest and/or the community. The wearing of the habit is not a sign of any “official mandate” from the Church and makes no presumption. The habit is a sign of consecration.  Bro. Ignatius was vested in his habit by a priest during the Mass of his First Profession in 1995. The priest checked with the Vicar General before doing this and was given the go-ahead to do it.

3) No, the Holy See did not approve the creation of our association. That is not how it works. Few “orders” are officially recognized by the bishop or the Holy See until after many years. Bro. Ignatius specifically and personally asked the Vicar General if OLSM had to wait upon any official recognition from the bishop or get permission to perform apostolates. The Vicar General said, “No, just do that you do, and if you get out of line, we will let you know.” We have  never told by any bishop that what we doing was wrong.

4) The founders of the OLSM are: Richard (Bro. Ignatius), Jose, Ramona, David, Lisa, Jay, Connie, Mike. Bev came a couple months later and is also considered a founder. Jay is the person who gave us our name of “Legion of St. Michael”. Both Jay and Bev have passed on. May they rest in peace. And no, we will not give the last names or locations of these people as we have an obligation to protect them against evil minded people who may harass them.

5) it appears that Mr. Faith Cop has a fundamental and profound ignorance about how these things work. We are not religious congregation or institute. By the way, there are many religious communities, fully recognized by the bishop or the Pope, who do not take solemn vows, but simple vows. A simple reading of canon law would have informed Mr. Faith Cop of that fact.

The members of the OLSM offer private vows of Chastity, Poverty, Obedience, Prayer, Penance, Mortification, Substantial Solitude, and Substantial Silence according to their state in life. Our structure is nearly identical to John Michael Talbot’s community, the Brothers and Sisters of Charity, a fully recognized community (which took them about fifteen or twenty years to get). That structure for us has a Secular Expression, which is like a third order and married people and single people may join it. Brother is in the Semi-Eremetic Expression, which is a celibate brotherhood. All of God’s faithful are to live in chastity (even married people), a spirit of poverty, and in obedience to the Church. The exact nature of that chastity, poverty, and obedience is determined by the person’s state in life. For  a married person, chastity means fidelity to their spouse and wholesome mutual self-giving in the marital embrace, and openness to live. A married person lives in a spirit of poverty and simplicity, and all must be obedient to the Church.

Brother’s vows are more intense in that he is living a celibate brotherhood, thus chastity is in what is called “in perfect continence, which means celibacy (no marriage) and obviously no sex outside of marriage. Brother fails on the second part in terms of his addiction to pornography, but God forgives and that is in the past, as we hope the sins are of all the readers of this blog. Poverty for Brother means literal poverty. Technically he owns no property at all, not even his cloths. That property that for legal or insurance reasons must be in his name, such as the house and his automobile are signed over to the General Council in a power of attorney to control as they wish. Obedience for Brother is not only to Pope and Magisterium, but also to the Provost of OLSM and to the General Council (Board of Directors).

As to our purpose and mission, one may read that here.

FAITH COP: Another problem is: the administration of the “Order’s” property can be done only by the bishop and NOT by themselves. While religious orders are allowed to manage their own properties and assets independently from the bishop, simple congregations ARE NOT. The bishop oversees it. Meineke also is living with his family and not inside the “Order’s” premises as a requisite for being a member.

FALSE: Again, Mr. Faith Cop is utterly ignorant of the issues. As a defacto association of the Christian faithful, the property of the association is administered by the governing board of the association. In our case that called the General Council. This is also true of Private Associations, but the bishop does have the authority to ensure that there is no financial irregularities.

FAITH COP: The way it looks, this Order operates as it has a legitimate ministry despite the fact that the Order for all indications available has no canonical status to exercise legitimate ministries inside the Catholic Church. “As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church…any ministry in the Church (Pope Benedict XVI: Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church, 10 March 2009).”

FALSE: Mr. Faith Cop has failed to mention that the letter by the pope to the bishops was a letter exclusively about the SSPX. The “ministers do not exercise…” refers to the priests of the SSPX. The term “minister” refers to priests. This letter was to inform the bishops of the status of the SSPX priests and does not apply to anyone else. As already mentioned we have legitimate exercise of our association and apostolate according to canon law.

Here are just a few quotes from canon law:

• Canon 298 §1:
  In the Church there are associations distinct from institutes of consecrated life and societies of apostolic life, in which the Christian faithful, either clergy or laity, or clergy and laity together, strive by common effort to promote a more perfect life or to foster public worship or Christian doctrine or to exercise other apostolic works, namely to engage in efforts of evangelization, to exercise works of piety or charity and to animate the temporal order with Christian spirit.

• Canon 299 §1:
  The Christian faithful are free, by means of a private agreement made among themselves, to establish associations to attain the aims in canon 298.1 …

• Canon 215: The Christian faithful are at liberty freely to found and to govern associations for charitable and religious purposes or for the promotion of the Christian vocation in the world; they are free to hold meetings to pursue these purposes in common. (see c. 298)
• Canon 216: All the Christian faithful, since they participate in the mission of the Church, have a right to promote or to sustain apostolic action by their own undertaking in accord with each one’s state and condition; however, no undertaking shall assume the name Catholic unless the consent of competent ecclesiastical authority is given.

“Assuming the name Catholic” refers to the use of the word “Catholic” in the name of the association.

FAITH COP: For all indications, it is a money-making deliverance counseling service outfit that sells books written by one of the founder, solicits donations, train “deliverance ministers” perhaps for a fee, and maybe ask for payment on their so-called deliverance services. Interacting with them on this issue, you can get a sense that it will discourage a person from seeking the free help of the legitimate local Catholic Church deliverance ministers and official exorcists so they can perform these themselves.

At worse, the founders’ behavior is like creating a federally valid money-making and money-soliciting group, without valid authority from the Roman Catholic Church, assuming the identity of a Catholic, provide maybe for-fee Catholic-like ministry of deliverance, hoping that no true Catholic would ever discover such fraud, and fight like hell should discovery becomes imminent.

FALSE: There are no books written by our founder that are for sale, but if there were, and there might be in the future, there is hardly anything wrong with that. Every nonprofit association in the world raises money to support overhead and program services. This is a nonsense complaint. As for enriching ourselves, the average donations per year these days are around $4500 and that does not allow us to do much beyond overhead costs. Bro. Ignatius volunteers his time, which is considerable, and may be valued at more than $100,000 at market rates if he did for others on salary what he does for us free. We operate with volunteers. We have no employees. If our computer explodes, which it has about four times, we are out of luck unless someone donates us another one. This is normal and standard operating procedure for nonprofits. Any suggestion otherwise is utter lunacy.

In addition, we do not charge counseling clients anything. Our counseling is free. Trainees are asked to promise a monthly pledge to help defray the costs of their training, but the amount is between them and God. This also, is normal and standard. Well, take that back, most apostolates charge tuition for such training; we do not. Students in Diocesan courses are usually charge a tuition. Thus, we are irregular in this by not charging anything and only asking our students for monthly pledge of whatever the student wishes to give.

FAITH COP: Catholics who accidentally came into the SPCDC may face an uphill battle in defending what they believe because this group even for the sake of intellectual argument would “label” Catholics, who stood their grounds, as “attackers.” Any Catholic must defend what he believes without censuring others who do the same: “Always be prepared to make a defence to anyone who calls you to account for the hope that is in you.” But this group will censure you to protect their interests on the expense of the Truth.

FALSE: The only people who have been censured or removed from our Bulletin Board are those who became abusive or disruptive, or were proposing heresy or other things opposed to Church teaching. We never do anything at the expense of Truth.  The only people we usually hear this blather from are those who have been removed from one of our Bulletin Boards. In most cases we still have the transcripts to prove their mis-behavior and violation of BBS rules. Administration of all bulletin boards, chatrooms, mail lists, and other interactive services remove people when they are disruptive. Most places are far more strict that we are about trivialities (political correction sort of things). But, it is true that we will remove someone, usually after repeated warnings, who is abusive or proposing things not consistent with the Church and refuse to behave.

FAITH COP: There are also indications that its purported well-distributed forum members, supposedly coming from such countries as Canada even Belgium in addition to the USA, could well be the same people under different names.

FACT: Some of these questions are so silly as to be beyond belief, but that is the nature of the worldly mind. When a person registers to be a member of one of our BBSs they must give the country they are from. Our system also records the applicants IP address which we check to be sure they are coming from where they say they are coming from. The speculation made by Mr. Faith Cop is nonsensical.

FAITH COP: In his article, Three Secret Strategies of Satan, Bro. Ignatius Mary wrote: “Opinion has its value only at serves to reveal the Truth.” And yet there were reports that Catholic members of the SPCDC forum who asked question that could reveal the truth about the organization has been reportedly spurged from membership and their views removed from the forum to avoid them having to answer these questions that might reveal problems.

FALSE: Whenever one sees the phrase, “there were reports”, by a detractor it usually means that there were rumors, lies, or sour-graped people saying these things. No one has every been removed from our BBSs that did not deserve it due to mis-conduct in the BBS. As mentioned above, this can be proved in most cases since the transcripts are kept. It is true that we will not tolerate attacks which are thinly disguised as “questions”. All of us have heard these disingenuous questions such as, “Why do you worship Mary?” That is not a question, but an accusation. Or, “when did you stop beating your wife.” We have had a very few people post attacks like this. Those few were removed, and rightly so, as it is an attack not a true question. An honest question is always answered.

FAITH COP: We wrote to the Diocese of Davenport and His Excellence, Most Rev. Martin Amos, Bishop of Davenport, confirmed on March 19, 2009 that “the Order of the Legion of St. Michael is unknown” to him and “it has no connection with the Diocese of Davenport. I have consulted with the two pastors of the parishes in Ottumwa and the organization is not known to them.” Apparently, a certain Roy Reeder has been associated with the Order, but is not listed as a member of either Ottumwa parishes.

FACT: It is correct we are unknown to Bishop Amos. We have not contacted him yet. We are not required to contact and intended to contact when we were ready to present to him. We will be contacting him shortly since the poor man has been contacted by several uncharitable people making false complaints and people inquiring for disingenuous reasons.  Both pastors of the Churches in Ottumwa have met Brother Ignatius and he has had confession with them both.  But, Brother has not “formally” introduced himself and thus they would not know him by name. I would imagine many of the people reading this have not formally introduced themselves to their pastor either. It is very common to slip into Mass and out again without a lot of socializing. One of the pastors, however, more recently does know of Brother and came to his house, but brother was in a middle of a meeting on the phone and couldn’t entertain him at that time. A meeting will be arranged with him later when Brother is in good enough health and the two of them have schedules that will allow it.

Roy does not live in Ottumwa, so of course the local pastors do not know him.

FAITH COP: Canon 209.1 provides that lay initiatives in organizing for spreading Catholic teachings “must maintain communion with the Church.” Not being known in the Diocese of Iowa clearly indicates that this group is not in communion with the Catholic Church.

TRUE & FALSE: As usual with worldly minded people they quote things out of context or incompletely to serve their convenience. Canon 209 §1 actually reads:

Christ’s faithful are bound to preserve their communion with the Church at all times, even in their external actions.

All the faithful, regardless of any “lay initiatives”, are to maintain communion with the Church at all times. The canon says nothing about “lay initiatives”. It refers to all the faithful. This hardly means that communion is lost if one does not introduce themselves to their bishops. If that were the case then most people, including I am sure Mr. Faith Cop, are not in communion with the Church because their bishop’s do not know they exist. This is another nonsensical accusation. As also stated a few times, and proven by canon law, lay apostolates are not required to “check in” with the bishop but may form their association or apostolate “on their own initiative.”

FAITH COP: The worst sign is their deliberate intention to hide these information and censure those who ask these questions. It is an act of deception and a lie. It reveals that the “Truth opinion” they are talking about only applies when they are speaking and concerns others but not them. Such impressive methods of deception, who could have taught them.

FALSE: We have hidden nothing, ever. And even though we have no obligation to respond to a malicious detractor malefactor, we have responded and answered every question. Mr. Faith Cop has committed the crime of calumny and rash judgment over and over.

FAITH COP: What added to the deception it created was the use of the names of holy people of extraordinary missions–Saint Pio of Peitrelcina and St. Michael the Archangel. A look and a mention of these saints’ names can help silence the warning signs any sensitive Catholics might notice from this group.

FACT: This is getting way silly as to be beyond belief. It is obvious Mr. Faith Cop is staying up nights trying to imagine negative things about us and to make mountains out of molehills, and mountains out of nothing.

FAITH COP: The photo shown above is a screen shot from the profile of Bro. Mary in the SPCDC forum. A look at the ashen-white cloaked face, the raised dagger ready to strike, and the hissing sound of the crosss of this Lord Knight is quite disturbing to the soul. And there’s only one fallen angel any Catholic can readily identify this Lord Knight of the Crosss with.

FACT: This is another interesting mountain from nothing. The picture in question with the mis-spelling of “crosss” is an obvious typo. Any normal person would know that.

FAITH COP: Mr. Collete claimed in his MySpace blog that he already died by murder. Curious, indeed!

LAUGH: The person in the last picture, named Collete, is obviously not Bro. Ignatius. Even his own followers have pointed this out to him twice, but Mr. Faith Cop still has the picture on his blog as of today. In addition, it is very insensitive of him to steal that picture of Richard Collete who was apparently murdered and the MySpace page was a tribute to him. May he rest in peace, and may Mr. Faith Cop be healed of his hatred.

DARLENE WATTS (in Comments): His “hermitage” home is just a tiny home he lives in. He is listed as the founder of the Order of the League of Saint Michael, both through websites (with his address and phone number) as well as saying so on his site on some parts. He is not associated with any diocese and does at times claim he is. Brother Bubba is listed as him on one site. I feel relatively confident that Brother Francis Mary is also. He is deceptive to say the least. He’s had the websites since 1998.

TRUE & FALSE: These people must have it in for small houses, they keep mentioning it as if it means something. Bro. Ignatius’ hermitage is a 600 square foot bungalow. Many hermit houses are less than 150 square feet. What is the point?

Miss Darlene’s comment that Bro. Ignatius sometimes claims to be part of a diocese is a patent lie. As already mentioned the disclaimer that “OLSM is not part of any diocese” was the first webpage written after the home page in April 1997. This disclaimer is also repeated on our official letterhead. There has never been any claim that we are part of a diocese. Oh, and we have had our websites since 1997. Where’s the deception?

Mr. Faith Cop and gang certainly fit the most perfectly with the description of the worldly mind from St. Francis deSales. Please pray for these people.

Ken Deel is a buddy of Fr. Ashcraft and is closely associated with the ghost busting and paranormal investigator crowd. Mr. Deel has a radio show to which Bro. Ignatius was a guest on a couple of occasions. When Bro. Ignatius warned our BBS members about what Fr. Ashcraft was doing on our SPCDC BBS, he also mentioned Ken Deel by saying:

Ken Deel is certainly more “Catholic” [than Fr. Ashcraft] but runs around with the Ghost Hunting crowd, Lorraine Warren, and other problematic people. His site and radio show is sometimes reminiscent of the Art Bell show. He needs to abandon the errors of the wacko crowd and focus on his Catholic faith.

As a result of this comment, Mr. Ken Deel sent the following email to Joe Meineke.

See Our Response after Mr. Deel’s letter:

I just got word that “Brother” Ingatius is attacking me on his site. I ask why?

I chose to remain silent and not tell you and others as I wanted about the  supposed BROTHER IGNATIUS (Richard Lee Collett Jr.)

YOU NEED TO READ ALL OF THIS. DON’T BE BLINDED BY HIS LIES.

First, as I read what he posted about me, my radio show, my website, and a  “Priest”. (No wonder why NO MONKS or Priests are on his site?)

Let me ask you. Is he forthcoming that:

This conviction was 2 counts, for possession AND distribution? Yes  DISTRIBUTION, is when you are exchanging photos with others. -MANY OTHER charges were set against him, but it was reduced to these 2 convictions.

-He was convicted in 2005:
http://www.iowasexoffender.com/sho.php?id=71190579&L_isonums=#8834;=&lastone=

-He did Jail time from 2005- to sometime in 2006. I can validate this  from his site content alone, he stopped updating his site for that time. And didn’t reply to e-mails, etc.

-According to sources, a girl, a minor, testified against him in court. If  he just had pictures how would this happen? This was related to anotehr charge agaisnt him, rememebr he was convcted of 2, charged with “many”.

-If he started a PORN ADDICTION group in 1998, how did he get caught with pictures in the least in 2005???? He is clearly stilla ddicted to porn after 1998 and 2001.

-That None of the Archdiocese thus far has heard of him or his order.

-His house is only a four room house, how is this a suppose monastery?

The fact he weighs 420 lbs, (Double my weight) my friends said that alone  is a red flag of fraud. NO MONK ORDER would allow one to eat himself into such a condition (I.e. Gluttony) The porn habit fits because he is not a model of self control. People are merely addicted to porn they are sex addicts. I picture a man who spends all day lying in bed or in an Easy chair, while surfing the net. Every indication that he lives entirely alone.

And he calls me and Father J “Bad Catholic”.

See the points? A “Hypocrite” at that as well.

(Did you notice how I said nothing before of this and I only asked that my account be deleted on those forums? When I am forced to defend myself I will make validate pints from facts. You shouldn’t be so loyal that you will ignore these facts, and your a good guy, you didn’t want me to incorrectly call you “Brother” Meineke, Brother Ignatius is anything but a valid catholic, and he belongs to no order. Where is his proof??

Check it out yourself, you enver met the man in person, easy to lie and pass yourself off as something else on teh web. So far he has really done a job well of playing “Catholic monk”

CALL THE ARCHDIOCESE for yourself, and when you validate the info, go  start your own mission for God don’t let the supposed Brother drag you down.

Before you disregrad this e-mail blindly. Do your own research and Tell me, you did NOT validate anything that was said here.

Look at his house, the AERIAL photograph of his address show a smaller four room one story house.

Hey don’t be too surprised. I run into this far too often already.

Basically his post only answered to what he thinks other people know, such as the persobn who was supposed to have blackmailed him, they don’t know what I know for example.

I removed teh radio show archives soon after but I had to have to truth! It’s out there ALA the freedom of informationa ct , through the church resoruces, Police records, court docs etc.

You catch him ‘misrepresenting’ the truth in one thing he recently said,  you shoudl trust him at all until YOU do your own research and find out the truth for yourself.

Don’t beleive in what he says. Look into yourself and ask him why he left that info out.

I was single for 38 years and never went into the internet thing since I have been on the net since 1995, and with kids/teens. Yet he calls me a  “bad Catholic”, critisizing a priest and my work?

Wake up!

We know them by their fruits, he is no model of self control. The man is heavy with Lust, pride, Gluttony, etc. things that don’t aamke a him a Good christian or a “Good Catholic” and don’t buy into he act as a supposed monk, anyone can “Act” on the internety, put on a costume and be anything they want to be.

Jimmy Baker used to give moving speeches, and all the while he was “perverted”.

Please rea dthis before jumpiong on gteh abnd wagon of blind people, with Ignatius,  and do teh research to learn the real truth.

God bless you, and your cause,

________________________

According to St. Francis deSales, when someone slanders or libels us, we are to give a calm reply to testify to the truth. If the slanderer accepts the truth, praise God. If the slanderer continues his lies, then accept it as mortification, which is good for the soul.

The following points out the truths and the errors of Mr. Deel’s statements and replaces the errors with the facts.

________________________

RESPONSE

DEEL: This conviction was 2 counts, for possession AND distribution? Yes DISTRIBUTION, is when you are exchanging photos with others.

FALSE: Bro. Ignatius was charged on ten counts (ten pictures) of “possession”, not distribution, of child pornography. Only two of those pictures actually proved to be child pornography (of teenage girls). Thus, he plead guilty on those two counts, taking responsibility for his actions. This was accepted by the court.

DEEL: MANY OTHER charges were set against him, but it was reduced to these 2 convictions.

FALSE: There were no other charges except for those ten pictures.

DEEL: He was convicted in 2005:

TRUE

DEEL: He did Jail time from 2005- to sometime in 2006.

TRUE: Bro. Ignatius served one year in prison from February 2005 to February 2006. He was on Parole for 20 month and discharged 16 months early because he was very low risk and successfully completed therapy, passed all polygraphs, and conducted himself without blemish on parole.

DEEL: According to sources, a girl, a minor, testified against him in court. If he just had pictures how would this happen? This was related to anotehr charge agaisnt him, rememebr he was convcted of 2, charged with “many”.

FALSE: There were no witnesses at all in court. There was no trial. Bro. Ignatius waved a trial and plead guilty. There was no girl. He was never accused of, nor did he ever touch anyone. There were no charges, allegations, or suspicions against him except for the ten pictures.

DEEL: If he started a PORN ADDICTION group in 1998, how did he get caught with pictures in the least in 2005???? He is clearly stilla ddicted to porn after 1998 and 2001.

TRUE: Bro. Ignatius started the addiction recovery group because he was addicted and knew that many other people were too, and there was no support group on the Internet for Catholics at the time. A support group was a logical step for addicted people, including for Bro. Ignatius, to get support to overcome their additions. Bro. Ignatius’ addiction was to pornography in general, adult pornography, not to child pornography. Downloading any pictures of underage teen girls was rare (but no matter how rare, it was still illegal).

The police case was based on the fact that Bro. Ignatius accessed a website in 2001 that included both adult and child pornography. He was not actually investigated until 2004. In between 2001 and 2004 he was still addicted, but was slowly resolving that addiction. The shock of the police knocking on his door slapped him square in the face. Although the addiction was all but broken by January 2004, before the police came, the investigation certainly knock it out completely. Brother still had to pay the price, however, for past behavior and thus plead guilty in court a year later.

Bro. Ignatius relates the experience, “I thank God that I was investigated and arrested. It knocked the addiction right out of me; and, as I mentioned before, the offering of my suffering of going to prison to God saved my mother’s life. I have no regrets about being arrested and imprisoned. It saved not only my mother’s life, but my own soul, and has helped a couple of other people back in prison to whom I became their spiritual director.”

DEEL: That None of the Archdiocese thus far has heard of him or his order.

TRUE: Brother has not contacted the Bishop as yet, nor is he required to contact him according a canon lawyer . Brother will make contact do so eventually when the time is right.

DEEL: His house is only a four room house, how is this a suppose monastery?

TRUE: St. Michael House is not a monastery and was never touted as a monastery. It is a hermitage house with three rooms and a bath/laundry room.

DEEL: The fact he weighs 420 lbs, (Double my weight) my friends said that alone is a red flag of fraud. NO MONK ORDER would allow one to eat himself into such a condition (I.e. Gluttony)

FALSE: At the writing of this response Brother weighs 433 pounds. He has lost 20 pounds recently from losing water that was retaining in his body due to his illnesses and medication. He probably has more water to lose. Brother’s weight is primarily caused from inactivity because he is a 100% permanently disabled Veteran on small VA pension and not able to be physically active.

We would suggest, however, that if weight was some sort of disqualifying factor then St. Thomas Aquinas was a fraud since he was so fat that he cut a half-moon in the supper table so he could sit closer to the table.

DEEL: Every indication that he lives entirely alone.

TRUE: Brother is a hermit, not a monk. Hermits tend to live alone. But, once we can build on to the house we will recruit for another hermit brother or two. Hermits do sometimes live together in a Hermitage House, which is different than a monastery.

DEEL: And he calls me and Father J “Bad Catholic”.

FALSE: Brother made no such remark in his comments about Father Ashcraft’s site or in his comments about Mr. Deel. To begin with Father Ashcraft is not a Catholic priest, he is anglican/orthodox/independent Priest. Brother said of Mr. Deel that he runs around with people who are problematic and he ought to concentrate on his Catholic faith.

DEEL: Brother Ignatius is anything but a valid catholic, and he belongs to no order. Where is his proof??

FALSE: Brother was confirmed in the Catholic Faith at the Easter Vigil in 1993 by Bishop Bullock at the St. Ambrose Cathedral in Des Moines, Iowa, and he is in good standing with the Church. Brother offers a binding oath of fidelity to the Pope and Magisterium.

The Order of the Legion of St. Michael was born on December 12, 1993 with the permission of a priestly adviser. A year later we added a hermit expression. Brother took first vows and was invested in the habit in 1995 before a Catholic priest during Mass with the full knowledge of the Vicar General of the Diocese.

Over the years canon lawyers, a bishop or two, many priests, and documents from the Congregation on Consecrated Life have been consulted by us, or by others in similar circumstances. These sources confirm what one canon lawyer said of us, that our group ” falls within the exercise of those rights and obligations (of the Christian faithful outlined in canons 208-223). While such groups enjoy a lawful autonomy this must be carried out within the parameters of canon 223.”

DEEL: Check it out yourself, you enver met the man in person, easy to lie and pass yourself off as something else on teh web. So far he has really done a job well of playing “Catholic monk”

FACT: Mr. Deel was talking to Joe Meineke here. The summer of 2008 Brother spent one week with Joe at his house in Ohio. Rebecca, the SPCDC BBS administrator, was also present in Ohio for about four days of that week. Brother spent another week with Joe when he lived in the Kansas City area.

In addition, Joe and Brother have spent well over a couple thousand hours on the phone since 2001. According to Brother, Joe “knows me better than any other individual on the planet — even counting my parents.”

DEEL: Basically his post only answered to what he thinks other people know, such as the persobn who was supposed to have blackmailed him, they don’t know what I know for example.

FALSE: In the thread that talked about “Father J” and the blackmail attempt by “Just Bill”, Brother specifically said that he was just giving the “basic story”, but that basic story tells the all pertinent facts in question. Mr. Deel’s assertions are fantasy. Brother has no problem telling every detail of the story. In fact, he is working on a book that tells about his conversion to the Catholic Church and his spiritual journey. It will include a complete account of his arrest and prison time. If Mr. Deel thinks he knows something, then he ought to say so. We would advise him, however, in order to avoid a libel suit he will need provide documentary evidence for his assertions (including those already made).

DEEL: I removed teh radio show archives soon after but I had to have to truth! It’s out there ALA the freedom of informationa ct , through the church resoruces, Police records, court docs etc.

TRUE: Brother’s crime is on public record. But, we challenge Mr. Deel to actually read the court documents instead of listening to rumors. If he did he would find that he is in error on many things and has committed the crime of calumny and rash judgment.

DEEL: You catch him ‘misrepresenting’ the truth in one thing he recently said, you shoudl trust him at all until YOU do your own research and find out the truth for yourself.

FACT: Neither Brother nor the Legion of St. Michael have ever misrepresented anything. The disclaimer about the status of our Order was the first web page written after the home page on April 5, 1997, the first day our website went online.

There has never been any secret to how Brother lives, where he lives, or his status in the Church. Brother’s arrest and prison time has never been a secret. As soon as it happened Joe Meineke and Francis Patrick Mary, currently the provost of OLSM, was immediately informed. Brother voluntarily resigned as Superior and the Francis took over as Provost. Brother also informed the over 400 people on the Catholic Support Group for Sexual Addition Recovery and sent letters to all members of the OLSM.

The Board of Directors, which includes Joe Meineke, then placed Brother on disciplinary restrictions and probation for four years, which he willingly accepted and completed successfully. Some of those restrictions included the requirement that Covenant Eyes always be on his computers for the rest of his life. The Council also directed that he not wear the habit without permission during the four year probation period, among other measures.

Although this event was already public, the one final act was to make a specific public statement to the general public, which was to happen later in the year. It happened sooner because of these detractors, but that is okay, Brother does not mind.

DEEL: We know them by their fruits, he is no model of self control.

TRUE: Brother has never claimed to be a model of a saint. He has always told us that he is the worst of sinners and that no one ought to look to him as a model. Brother has a great deal of self-control today, but not enough; he is still working on it. His primary lack of self-control today is in the pride of impatience in certain areas.

Bill Vaile, a/k/a “Just Bill”, was responding to Bro. Ignatius’ criticism of the  BBS of a “independent” priest, Father Ashcraft, a founder of “United Paranormal International”, and the Ghost Hunting/Paranormal Community he leads, for purveying misinformation and allowing witches and other occultist into the group with their obviously erroneous ideas. The primary catalyst was when Fr. Ashcraft came on our BBS after kicking Bro. Ignatius off of his and began trying to recruit people to his BBS. Bro. Ignatius properly sent out a warning to the members of our BBS asking them to ignore Fr. Ashcraft’s PMs and why. Mr. Vaile” responded to that with the following in email:

Regarding the below message [copy of my comments was included in the email] to the folks! This is a lie and is vindictive in nature. I know the history of you and of Father J very well and I am going to give you one chance to pull it from your site. Stop the attacks on Father J immediately, delete the letter and you will not hear from me again. Continue them and you will hear plenty from me. This is not to be construed as any kind of threat it may however be construed as a suggestion that whosoever lives in glass houses should not be throwing stones. Keep your website I don’t care but use it for good and not for attacking Father J or advertising German pedophilia. You of all people should know better. I will check tomorrow and if the attack on Father J is still there then you will hear more from me but not here… on my site! Attacking Father J is not christian and neither are you. By the way a response to this is not only unecessary it will not be accepted. One chance is all you get. I will check later today the 26th and if the attack is not removed then I will proceed to do to you on my website as you have done to him on yours. I will NOT RECOMMEND your website much as you have so erroneously not recommended his. And you know I can and you know I have facts! Shall we continue this dance?

The next day, Bill Vaile, a/k/a/ Just Bill”, tried to “blackmail” Bro. Ignatius by saying that if the comments about Fr. Ashcraft were not removed that he would expose Bro. Ignatius. While the past of Bro. Ignatius was already public, he responded with a clear and bold public statement of the facts:

Update:

Now this “Christian” gentleman is trying to blackmail me with information about my checkered past since I did not remove this thread.

I will not give in to blackmail by evil people.

It is not a secret, nor do I intend it to be a secret. I use to be addicted to pornography. This is one reason I started the support group in 1998 called the Catholic Support Group for Sexual Addiction Recovery.

In 2001, the last pornography site I ever visited contained pictures of teenagers. As a result of having two pictures of teenager girls on my computer that had been erased and on my computer after about three minutes, according to the forensics report, I was arrested. I took responsibility and plead guilty and was sentenced to prison. I spent one year in prison and two years on parole. My prison and parole record was spotless. In fact, I was released early because I had a spotless record and was found to not to be a risk. I also spent two years in therapy.

In addition to the civil penalties I also served almost four years on probation and other disciplinary measures from my Order.

By the grace of God I am no longer addicted to pornography, have been forgiven in the Sacrament of Confession, done my penance, willingly accepted my punishment from the state and from my Order, and was judged by my superior to be fit to return to ministry.

God can always make lemonade from the lemons in our life. He did that with this experience. By going through these things I am better able to help people with sexual addictions, for example. I have also been helping a couple of men who are still in prison to come to know God better, get their life straight to be productive and moral men when they get out.

My attorney, who is also a prosecutor in another county and an expert on pornography law, told me that my case was so marginal that he would have never filed charges in the first place had this come across his desk. Based upon other sentences of other people convicted of the same crime, my attorney was expecting sixty-days of house arrest, or at worse, sixty-days of county jail. The judge instead gave me the harshest sentence of anyone accused of this crime in opposition to the merits of the case at the time. We really don’t know why, except for one possibility…

During this time my mother went into a coma after surgery. She was in a vegetative state and the doctors said there was no hope. I got permission to go be with her as she died. Just as I got in town and to the hospital my sister came running up to me and said that she was awake. Not only was she awake but she suffered little ill effects. This was a complete shock to the doctors. She is alive today and about 95% recovered. It was a miracle.

As Paul Harvey would say, Now for the rest of the story. Just before I left to go home to what I thought would be a funeral I prayed to God. I had not been sentenced yet so I told God that I would offer myself, offer my suffering of willingly going to prison, even though it was most likely that I would get 60 days, if He would save my mother’s life.

Well, she woke up with 95% complete recovery when she was suppose to be dead, and a few weeks later I was sentenced to prison when, according to the lawyers, I shouldn’t have been.

I feel there is a connection. Thus, I praise God that I went to prison because that, along with other things, it broke my addiction, there are several guys in prison now who are closer to God (I used my time in prison to help people spiritually), the experience helps with my ministry helping sexual addicts, and my mother is alive and well.

God made lemonade out of the lemon that was my life.

So there you go. That is the basic story. If knowing this means I have lost your respect or that you no longer wish to be part of this website, then so be it. That is part of my past. But, I try to make the mistakes of my past work for the greater glory of God in the present and in the future. As St. Paul said, “All things work together for good to those who love God and are called to His purpose.” Praise God. Thank you Lord.

One thing I will never accept is to be extorted or blackmailed. I forgive this blackmailer and pray for him.

…from the annals of the Spiritual Warfare Q&A (this one is really sad):

You cannot help me.  no one can.  so i hate you all…

i’ve been like this for 25 years ever since he laid siege to me and took me over.  i am one with him and speak with his voice.  i understand fully and perfectly the absolute truth of the wrong from the beginning and i know what your god did to him and you will never get away with it, never.  i see every single ****ing lie you tell on this site to cover up for the atrocities of your god and blame the hostages for being hostages.  i know every crime of heart, mind, soul, spirit and yes, body, committed by all of you who claim to worship the christ.

you say my kind does not exist but i assure you we do.  i am currently titrating from the fourth exponential to the fifth and when i reach the seventh, the skies will split open and the vessel of liberation will deliver the demonic hosts into the hands of the father, and all will be reconciled.  master and i will be banished to the dark side, hurled into the abyss forever, so you all can have your heaven and your celebration and the memory wipe your putrid god intends to give you.

you see you cannot help me, nobody can, because they make me like it, they MAKE ME LIKE IT when they torture me and rape me they make me adore Satan and i can’t stop, i have no part of me separate from Him anymore.  i love Him and i love for Him to tear me apart and use me and devour me and make me burn with ecstasy and power and you cannot help me.  i have no faculty of volition i am a perfect esphragisthete in Him.  do you understand what i’m saying … i’m alive, i exist and you cannot stop me, you cannot help me, no one can.

i twist light into darkness and consume the souls of men.  i drive the children of god to blasphemy and murder and laugh at their failure to love.  i despise every last ****ing one of you.  you cannot help me because you do not see the reality the daimonizomai lives with.  you see only your silly lies, things you devise for the weak and deluded so you can sell them your political propaganda and bind them with human chains and shackles as if that could free us from what enslaves us and subjugates us inside.  as if!!!  you tailor your words and counsel for those with volition, for those not truly owned and operated but only playing with themselves in their minds.  you cannot help anyone like me, not for real, because your \”help\” is like dumbo’s magick feather and relies entirely upon the afflicted person to fix themselves, which no one truly afflicted this way can possibly do.

why don’t you come find me and slay me then as you clearly cannot help me, nobody can, i cannot help myself and so i am doomed for all eternity, i have been for 25 years, maybe all my life.  i’m so ****ing programmed by Satan even if you could free me i would just run back to him and there’s nothing you can do about it.  there’s nothing *I* can do about it either.  your god is impotent and makes excuses.  he can’t really save, he can only con people into fixing themselves and he can’t do anything about someone like me who has become perfectly 100%

ONE WITH LUCIFER.

…from the annals of the Spiritual Warfare Q&A:

Do you want to know why sexual immorality is the most prevalent disease running rampant in the field of spiritual warfare?  It all starts at the top.  For centuries the kingdom of heaven has referred to porn and sexual lewdness as the main goal of achievement.  By achievement, that is simply this…the FORCED coersion of souls into blatant submission of a kingdom that is corrupt and heavy with an insane mindset.  For example, mary forcibly uses porn (aka angelina jolie in the buff) to aggrevate and seduce higher forms of intelligence and powers to break their will.  They in turn, respond in kind to get their lustful wishes fulfilled.  Jesus uses madonna the pop star to the fullest of porn addictions to seduce not only the masses on earth but spiritual powers and beings as well.  He forcibly (as I am now being told) rams the penises of male deities and spiritual beings (as well as physical males) right up the behind of madonnas rear while applying his own very physical sensations to the job.  Yahweh is not left out in this.  Why am I telling you this…It’s because it all starts with these “holy”? individuals who rape, molest, and beat souls into submission.  A far cry from a wholesome Sunday mass.  Copies of this message have been sent to the Holy See to open his eyes to the plight of this devious and corrupt system.  His Holiness the Dalai Lama is also privy to this information.  Even Satan himself is one greatly opposed to this practice.  Why, because he has been beaten to near obliteration for this very same instance.  If he has had to make changes then sure enough it better NOT be prompted by those pretending to be holier than thou.  His intelligence has seen clearly through the veil of deception set upon him and his realm so long ago.  This situation is no longer tolerable because evil bondage to the sin of sexual corruptness is just that…EVIL.  It’s time to give credit to those trying to move forward by cleaning up the sins of the higher ups…who, by the way are far to corrupt to STOP THEIR MADNESS.  If Satan can compromise then why can’t they!  Let me state it this way…Satan at least has the brains enough to come to the rescue of a lady being held captive to the cruel and torturous rigors of the kingdom.  Does this make any sense?  Now what does the bible say?  Let me tell you, the reality of it all will turn to heartache and complete disgust.  As in this case scenario:  This evening jesus, st germain, yahweh, and aleister crowley (yes, he even made it to heaven), were caught in the act of pleasuring eachother as they partook in madonna snorting cocaine!  These are the same individuals who rape and molest myself and my family members!  Now I have had enough of this bull****…it’s time for you sanctified warriors to get off your LAZY asses and do something constructive!

…from the annals of the Faith & Spirituality Q&A:

On saying no to birth control:

This is just more religious interference. A christian version of Sharia law, just masked in language. It amazes me that people can say “look at them. stripping rights of women, and forcing them to wear….” They are considered bad people.

They’re just more honest about it than christians are. What they call god’s law, the christian taliban calls “naturally right.”

Eggs are eggs. They aren’t people. Much like the dripping cheese omelletes I love, they are eggs. Something that has the potential to become something else, isn’t the something else it could be.

But the christians, being no different from their muslim brothers, don’t need any stinking badges. They feel it’s their duty to make people adhere to whatever they say.

If you don’t want to use birth control, or get an abortion, don’t. Just remember when you cross the line insisting that yours is the only way, you become what you loathe about those “other people.”

…from the annals of the Faith & Spirituality Q&A:

about  sex scandals:

hey yet another family values moral right public figure has been caught up in sex scandals. this time a governor spending 80,000 bucks on hookers all the while trying to tell us hey im clening up all the moraly bankrupt degenerats in my state. mabey you holier than thou people should shut up or put up when it comes to morals….so whatcha got hidden in your closet??? prostitutes? porn? altar boy spanking? you guys seem to love judgeing others whilst you are the most moraly bankrupt of us all and when it comes to light its all …..oh i have sinned and im sorry! as to why people like me read your stuff if we dissagree with you … well someone has to call you guys on your b.s. ok now inssult me for your groupies so you feel goog

thanks

…from the annals of the Faith & Spirituality Q&A:

**** YOU MORON, **** YOU MORON, DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE, ILL NEVER TRUST A MAN WHO WONT **** WOMEN IN THE ***** *** THEN *****,

QUEER

… from the annals of the Faith & Spirituality Q&A:

You had your 2000 years now its ower turn.

HAIL SATAN