given the Book of Mormon
Hello and God bless you Br. Ignatius,
I have a wonderful Catholic Boss who is very good friends with a Morman man. The Morman is also a co-worker of mine, and is such a nice, decent man: friendly, honest and trustworthy and more "Christian" than many so-called R.C. Christians that I know.
The other day, I was commenting about a letter our local Bishop wrote to our parishes, to my Boss. He hadn't heard about it. (Our Bishop quoted from 1 Cor. 11 and also said that if a Priest is aware of a politian (or anyone) who openly supports things against the teachings of the CHurch, ie: aborition, then the Priest is not supposed to give the Eucharist to that person who is in grave sin.)
The Morman man said that he didn't agree with that since no one has the right to refuse someone communion - that it is between God and the person. I told him that it is in the Bible and that if we do that, then we are guilty of participating in that person's sin. But I didn't argue - I was just gentle and let it be.
The next day my Catholic Boss gave me something from my co-worker: A note with my name, saying, "1 Cor. 11:24-29 You were right of course Have (Boss's name) show you 3 Nephi 18:28-30 (and his name)".
3 Nephi 18:28-30, "And now behold, this is the commandment which I give unto you, that ye shall not suffer any one knowingly to partake of my flesh and blood unworthily, when ye shall minister it; (29) For whoso eateth and drinketh my flesh and blood unworthily eateth and drinketh damnation to his soul; therfore if ye know that a man is unworthy to eat and drink of my flesh and blood ye shall forbid him. (30) Neverless, ye shall not cast him out from among you, but ye ..."
When I went to hand back the book of Mormon, my boss told me it was for me. I politely told him that I have many Bibles at home, and that as a Catholic, and him being a Catholic, we should know that this is not a bible and has contradictory teachings and beliefs. My Boss was incredulous (and disbelieving) and told me to show him where the contradictions are. He doesn't believe it. I explained (between serving customers) that Joseph Smith founded Mormonism and that he got his ideas from a false angel named Moroni, but I couldn't explain everything. He wasn't open to hearing it and I respected that. So I thought about it quiety, and figured that I would at least try to read some of the book (I am deeply grounded in my Faith and teachings and read the Bible frequently) so I could try to see where there is false teachings. I also didn't want to be a cause of offending someone for such as this. From what little I have read, it seems to be taking some of the true Bible's teachings like the quote above. I know that if I continue I would probably find some falsehoods in the book.
When my co-worker came in later on, I thanked him for the book and his quotes. He told me that he didn't know this before (about the above subject re: Eucharist etc.) and that I obviously was gifted this knowledge by the Holy Spirit since I am a faithful servant of Jesus and live my life as such and my actions show me to be. I thanked him for saying this, and said I try to be, but I'm not perfect, and that I knew this from reading and being taught this from the Church's teachings. (I felt my co-worker only believed this about the giving of the Eucharist because it was in the Book of Mormon - otherwise he wouldn't have.)
--Was I wrong in accepting this book?
--How can I show my Catholic boss that this is not a bible and that there is contradictory and false teachings in this book?
--How do I (and should I) witness about our Faith?
These men are decent, very good men; so honest and trustworthy and caring. I am respectful of them and do not want division.
Thank you so much,
QUESTION from Claire on June 11, 2004
from Claire
ANSWER by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM on June 17, 2004
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Dear Claire: My first thought is that this Mormon has no right to tell Catholics what is permissible or not permissible to us. Even if the Catholic Church was not the True Church and the Mormons a false church, each and every group has a right to believe what it believes, even if we disagree. Th Catholic Church can refuse communion to whomever she wishes in accord with charity and Canon Law. I have to sigh about your boss and his ignorance. He may be a wonderful man, but not so wonderful a Catholic to think that the Book of Mormon can possible be legit let alone compatible to Catholic theology. Nevertheless, at least he is open to correction. A view points to consider (a presume I do not need to quote Scripture to refute these Mormon beleifs. The list of some of their beliefs should be clear on its face as being ridiculous):
There is a LOT more weirdness about the Mormons that could be listed, but the list above should convince any Catholic with an IQ of 25 or above that Mormonism cannot possibly be compatible with Catholicism, and more, that Mormonism is not compatible with any form of legitimate Christianity. In fact, since Mormons do not believe in the ONE God in three persons, the Trinity, and do not baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit with the correct thinking of who the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are, Mormons are not Christians at all -- no matter how much they say they are. To be minimally Christian one must be validly baptized and affirm at least the Apostle's Creed. Mormons do neither.
To your specific questions: --Was I wrong in accepting this book? No, it was not wrong to accept the book. The book can be useful in apologetics, but even at the least, it is an act of respect to accept the book especially if you wish to keep dialogue open. --How can I show my Catholic boss that this is not a bible and that there is contradictory and false teachings in this book? See my essay above... --How do I (and should I) witness about our Faith? Well, you must stand your ground and not let the fact that these men are decent and good men, honest and trustworthy and caring, to get in the way. You can express the truth of the Catholic Church in a gentle manner, but you cannot backoff from that teaching. In the long run division could be created because some people do not want to accept the truth. Jesus Himself said that He did NOT come to bring peace, but division. Then our Lord described how even families will be ripped apart because of Him. Truth matters and we must affirm, defend, and stand-up for that truth, even if it means losing a friend, or even losing a job. This does not mean we have to be a bull in a china shoppe, but it does mean that we are not to be ashamed of our faith and to be timid about our faith. St. Paul told Timothy that, "God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline." While you should do the best you can to keep the peace, that peace ought never be maintained in compromise. Sooner or later, if the topic of conversation continues, push may come to shove. I am reminded of a different kind of workplace situation that I experiences. I was working for a Copy Shoppe on the night shift. Sometimes Planned Parenthood would come in at 3am to have us copy off and bind manuals for a workshop they would hold at 8am. My boss asked what I was going to do when that happened. I said, "well, I can call you at 3am and have you come down and do the job, but that I will never work on Planned Parenthood materials due to the moral repugnacy of that agency." My boss made noises of firing me. I replied, "I would rather be fired by you than to be fired by God. You do what you will." I was never fired, but I did lose promotions, pay raises, and was ridiculed by co-workers and even had my car vandelized by a co-worker. I ended up leaving the company, but on my own terms -- I was taking vows as a brother and would not be working in a secular job like that anymore. Anyway, we will pray for you and this situation, pray for your boss, and pray for this Mormon. Here is an article about Mormonism at Catholic Answers: Gods of the Mormon Churche and an article from the 1912 Catholic Encyclopedia: Mormonism
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